You are kidding, right Joe? You have already destroyed the verse as WRITTEN. It says ALL but your theology won't let the verse MEAN what it clearly SAYS.<br><br>But you want another verse. RRrright.<br><br>You will do the very same thing with ANY verse that destroys Calvinism. Why? Because CALVINISM is your final authority. Arminians do the very same thing. As do Catholics, Charismatics, etc based on THEIR theologies.<br><br>I can quote many verses that CLEARLY SAY that Jesus died for all men. But you won't let them stand. You will attack them because you don't BELIEVE what the Bible SAYS, you have to interpret scripture and make it fit your theology. I can show the Arminian how a born again child of God is eternally secure, or the Catholic that Jesus spoke spiritually in John 6, or the Charismatic that Jews require a sign and the church is to walk by faith and not by sight. But you all do exactly the same thing. Elevate your theology to the position of final authority.<br><br>And the little smilies and calling me MR CRITTER.... very spiritual of you (one of the consistent marks of heresy is carnality).<br><br>I made it clear that you can leave the verse alone and it means exactly what it says.<br><br>Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?
