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Isn't it rather droll that you are coming to Fred Malone for support and I to the WCF?
Grace2u you went to something called the WGF LC. 31 and not the WCF. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/evilgrin.gif" alt="" /> Malone for support, that will be the day [Linked Image] . Have you read, The Baptism of Disciples Alone ? I went to Malone (and asked you a question); (1) because he is Baptist and one YOU support, (2) to reveal that Baptists “today” as well as yesterday use the term, and (3) Baptists have an understanding of what Covenant of Redemption means. As matter a fact I went to the Scripture for support in my previous reply, which you have not refuted. In addition, I made reference to WCF 1.6. Isn't it interesting how you looked over all these facts--is this the BCT method--to overlook facts until you can manipulate what you desire to convey? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" />

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The term, 'Covenant of Redemption' seems to be an American term rather than an English one. Actually, I don't really have a problem with it. My purpose up to now has been to show that 'Covenant od Redemption' and 'Covenant of Grace' are not Biblical terms, but human constructs, which may be helpful in understanding God's saving purposes in Christ, but which should not be pressed too far.
Calvinism is not a biblical term either, however you use it don’t you? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/drop.gif" alt="" /> You need to learn that more than just some of the English have some theological principles that are truthful to Scripture. Re-read WCF 1.6.

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Isn't it interesting that the phrase 'Covenants of Promise' which IS found in the Bible, attracts so little attention from theologians (including Malone) compared with the other two terms. Perhaps you might care to address yourself to this question whilst I am on holiday? What are the Covenants of Promise? And why does Paul use that term whilst eschewing the other two?
You need to begin a new thread if you desire to speak about this issue.

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BTW, a swift trawl through Spurgeon on Psalm LXXII did not reveal a 'Covenant of Redemption' (though I may have missed it).
Please read Spurgeon for his whole context and not for just what you are looking for. [Linked Image]

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Ver. 15. Prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised. It might have been rendered, "Prayer also shall be made through him continually, and daily shall he be blessed." The word is rendered "blessed, "when speaking if an act of worship towards God; and the word translated "for" is sometimes used for "through, "as Jos 2:15, "Through the window." If we hold the translation "for him, "then it must be understood of the saints praying for the Father's accomplishment of his promises, made to the Son in the covenant of redemption, that his kingdom may come, his name be glorified, and that he may see his seed, and that the full reward may be given him for his sufferings, and so that he may receive the joy that was set before him. Jonathan Edwards.


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