was wondering what is your answer to the question that Joe posed:<br><blockquote>Funny, how can there be a secret rapture when Christ comes with a Shout?</blockquote><br>I'm not sure you've answered this since I have finished going through the entire thread yet.<br>That's also been one of the questions that I have always had since I've heard of "secret" rapture.<br><br><blockquote>1 thes 4:16-18<br>For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [color:red]shout</font color=red>, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. <br>Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. <br>. </blockquote><br><br>thanks.<br>brother in christ,<br><br>Carlos <br>

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