again , you don`t get the point, believing a false gospel only proves at that time you are not yet in a converted state. You have still failed to prove that I said that you must believe the true in order to get saved... an muslim who is elected to salvation , God is pleased to keep him in darkness and believe a false doctrine until the year 2006, in 2006, He hears the truths about Jesus Christ as to who he is and what he has done for his people, the great Love that God has in christ, for his church , his sheep , those given in election, the israel of God. He at this time in 2006 , believes in christ as to what he has done for his people matt 1: 21 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins ! the true gospel when presented or proclaimed properly, declares Gods people saved already by the death of Christ <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bananas.gif" alt="" /> Its not an offer, it`s an declaration of an accomplished fact. The elect person believes the Good news as the Holy spirit applys their salvation to them with power and persuasion as in 1thess 1For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

The Gospel is not an offer to do something to get saved, it`s a proclamation of an establihed fact, Gods people are saved by the dearth burial and resurrection of the messiah. Faith rest in this accomplished fact, it does not do something to make it an accomplished fact <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bash.gif" alt="" /> Thats why I know you are misrepresenting what I am saying, because there is nothing you can do to be saved ! christ did it all already for his people and thats the good news. As stated before, you and pilgrim and some of the rest, not robin though , have twisted what I have said. The muslim in 2006, when he believes the gospel of HIS SALVATION , believes at the appointed time and MAKES MANIFEST his already accomplished salvation. Prior to 2006 , when he was still worshipping allah and all that , he manifested at that time that he was still in a darkened , unconverted state ! Not that he had to yet do something or yet believe something inorder to get saved, that happended at the cross, when his messiah said IT IS FINISHED. But it was not revealed to him yet through the gospel...I hope I have made myself clearer, I know I have to those who have been following along with an honest and open mind, May the God Of Israel be Glorified!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


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