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William said:
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Joe k said:

The reprobate are not reprobated becasue of sin, they are reprobated becasue of His will alone. <span style="background-color:#FFFF00">So why does sin have to play a part? </span>

That's terrible thinking Joe.

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. . . the reprobate are always damned to eternal hell in the way of their own sin. It is true that God determined what their final end would be -- and that He did so before they were ever born. --- But the wicked are definitely cast into the torments of hell because of their own evil acts. <span style="background-color:#FFFF00">Never can they point their finger at God, declaring, "God has forced me to do that which was contrary to His will; the fault therefore lies with God and not with me." </span> The wicked reprobate consciously and willingly sin, and for that sin they shall surely be cast into eternal desolation.

Rev. Gise J. Van Baren

William

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Not terrible thinking william. But as Pilgrim pointed out, this should be another thread, and I dont know how to transfer it. As an aside, Scripture makes a distinction between reprobation and damnation. Men are damned becasue of sin eternally. but not reprobated because of sin. IF it was, then the reason lies in man and not in Gods pleasure.

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.