I agree 100% with what you said, I am not shirking my responsibility. I want to answer Johan's post later when I get the time. I will show where I disagree with the Westminster Confession and why. Most likely in a separate thread. Not to stir controversy but to try to be more clear. I want to take time to point to the scriptures that lead me to believe as I do. I also want to do a little searching to see if this view ever was presented, meaning the objective love of God versus His subjective love and the arguments against it. Until then, understand, I do take full responsibility for my view heretical or not, it isn't based on a like or dislike, it is simply my view of God. I fully accept that God chooses who He will and rejects others, my point is that God's Love is more extensive than we give it because we fail to see it objectively.

Thanks again for your posts, they have all been well received.

Matt. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. KJV