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With respect old bean, why not re-read the thread,including scripture quotes, have a look at ALL of Pauls Epistles,and then consider Sinai and Zion. (1 Timothy 1:7)

Mark, what should I re-read? You said you were "working through it" and as Pilgrim and Brian pointed out, and as you have shown with your comment, your mind is already settled on the matter.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.