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The point is how we fulfil such a righteous walk - by law, or by faith? I answer by faith, yoked to Christ, as led by the Spirit.

What makes you think that anyone here, or the Westminster Divines, or Owen, or Edwards, etc., is "fullfilling a righteous walk, by the Law" rather than by faith? What makes you think that you are "yoked to Christ" and we are not? What makes you so sure that we are not "led by the Spirit" and you are? On what basis, as your question implies, must a walk of faith exclude the Law?
On what basis must a walk of faith exclude the law if led by the Spirit? On this basis:-

“But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.”
Galatians 5:14

I have no doubt that you believe you are walking by faith. But add law to grace and it is no more grace. Scripture continually contrasts faith in Christ with the works of the law. The two are never mixed. Add law to faith and it becomes just law.

I am yoked to Christ because I am MARRIED to Christ and dead to my former husband, the law. See Romans 7. If you return to law then you commit adultery, breaking the very law you profess to keep. How foolish.

We WERE yoked to the law, and it was a burden we couldn’t bear. We are now freed from that bondage and are yoked to Christ whose yoke is easy. We walk in the Spirit, and “are not under the law”.

As Romans 6 and 7 makes clear:-

“For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.”
Romans 6:14

“Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.”
Romans 7:4-6

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I very much value Philpots writings for their experiential nature, and was drawn to them as a breath of fresh air after years of intellectual dryness and denial of the Spirits essential work, and I still value them for that contribution. For me, there are some parts of his sermons that are simply unsurpassed with respect to insight into experiential religion. However, when I began to see, with the help of others, that there were some other areas that did not line up with scripture, I admitted my error and moved on. May the Lord give you the grace to do the same. Not to ignore or to shun his contribution, but to put it along side others of God's servants who also have been gifted of the Lord.

As I pointed out to you privately, I believe that Dr. Beeke has illucidated nicely the issue of the Reformation and post Reformation teaching on the development of the doctrine of Assurance in his work, "The Quest for Full Assurance", and I would recommend it to you to give some perspective on this issue outside of the Strict Baptist Camp. I also note that Philpots books, as well as Gadsby's, not to mention many others of an experiential nature, including most notably Owens and Calvins and Goodwins are to be found in the Catalogue of Reformation Heritage Books, a ministry of Dr. Beeke's Heritage Netherlands Reformed Church in Grand Rapids, Mi.

No group or denomination, in my view, (including Presbyterians <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />) has a corner on the truth of God's word, and, "In a multitude of counselors there is wisdom".

I repeat some of what I said to you in a PM Gerry:

I am pleased to hear you set forth your position in some consistency – that you reject Huntington’s, Philpot’s, Warburton’s, and Gadsby’s teaching over the law as well as mine. I am in good company. All these men knew much of the truth about the workings of the Holy Spirit which is why they are so clear on the truth that “if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law”. Gal. 5:18. Both truths go together Gerry – yet what God has joined together you seek to put asunder.

You seem to have presumed from the fact that I worship at a Gospel Standard SB chapel that I have always done so, or that I have been ‘brought up’ in these doctrines. No Sir – you presume too much. I have only worshipped in this chapel for the last three years, being brought by God among a people who know and love the same truths which He experimentally taught me. I didn’t even know that Huntington or Philpot existed until a good few years after I had come to know the truth regarding deliverance from the law. When I discovered their writings it was with much joy that I found others who knew and wrote the same truths I loved. But I neither received this Gospel from them, nor was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Gal 1:12

I know of others too, outside the SBs, who believe these things. Some of their writings are on my website. But what of that? If a hundred men believed it, or if only one believed it, what is important is whether God’s word teaches it, whether the Spirit testifies to it, whether it is the truth of God. I believe it is. And I speak as I have been taught.

I live in no cocoon Gerry. I have read many, many writers on these matters. Lloyd Jones, Owen, Trail, Calvin, Luther, Edwards, Hodge, Ryle, etc etc. I am not trapped on some GS Strict Baptist tramline. But by God’s grace I have been shown the flaws in the understanding and exegesis regarding Law and Grace of such men as those listed above, whosoever they may be.

When Paul writes in Romans 6:14 “Sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace” he means what he says. You simply cannot say “that’s just for justification”. It is ONGOING, it is what we are UNDER – not what we look to for justification. It is talking about how sin ceases to have dominion over us. If we remain under law, it dominates. If we are under grace then righteousness dominates. The way people try to dismiss the message of Galatians, or these verses in Romans, by claiming it is all just ‘justification’ is no less than sleight of hand and cunning craftiness. It is confusion.

Read 2 Corinthians 3 again Gerry, and understand.

Your experiences from the past in a dispensational church, probably was real Antinomianism Gerry. All truth is subject to abuse. There are many who take the truth of deliverance from the law, and abuse it by sinning ‘that grace may abound’. That is wrong. But it doesn’t alter the doctrine itself. The word must be mixed with faith in the hearers, and faith is NOT dead – it produces works, it produces righteous conduct. Don’t judge what I preach by your ‘experience’ of others from the past who abuse the truth. I contend for the righteousness of God – that believers should be holy. But I repeat Romans 6:14 “Sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace”. The law made NOTHING perfect Gerry, but the bringing in of a better hope did. Keep your eyes upon Christ by faith, and STOP SQUINTING, with one eye on Christ, the other on Moses…

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For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”
Galatians 2:19-21