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J_Edwards said: Sorry, wrong again . Covenant children, even the non-elect ones, have the benefit of the teaching of the Word, of a Christian example in the home, the Church, of prayers, etc., which are all part and parcel of covenant relationship.
How are these things of any benefit to the non-elect? These things only add to their condemnation under the law.
Moreover, God is obligated to His covenant, which you are assuming only has blessing, however cursings also apply for those who break it! Every Covenant deals with the justice of God and not only God’s love, provision, blessing, etc.! God does not violate the covenant even when He condemns the non-elect covenant members to Hell. God fulfills His obligation!
You're the one who finds a benefit to the non-elect in baptism. The non-regenerate are hardened in unbelief. Baptism demands faith which only the Holy Ghost gives not works of a covenant.
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