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Greetings again and thanks for your response.
I guess the bottom line is that you don't like Pauls argument. I believe it is pretty simple.If you and the other 99%, which expains alot, can read 1 Cor. and can't see something so simple, then believe what you want. I can see why you don't like what Paul is saying, but Paul did a great job.
I guess since there are two things mentioned about "belonging" to Christ, you don't accept the first one either? That he had to die for you? Is that "unbilical" to?
I believe what Jesus said, "he that believes and is baptized shall be saved..." how about you?
The text talks about " belonging".And the text gives you at least two things that are required to "belong" to him. It is apparent that you don't believe either of the two are correct.
So, one last time, and I do mean last.
1} in order to belong to Christ, did he have to die for you? 2) in order to belong to Christ, do you have to be baptized in his name?I say Yes. How about you?
Sorry about the one you couldn't follow. I admit I do that alot. So I will try again and hope you can understand. Thanks for being patient. You mentioned earlier why Paul just mention himself and not the others when he said" baptized in the name of Paul". I just think that Paul knew the answer would apply to any name that would fit there. Just because the other names weren't mentioned doesn't mean anything. Wouldn"t it still be the same if Paul said, " baptized in the name of John Calvin or Alexandar Campbell?" The only name that fits is " Jesus". He died for us and I was baptized into his name, therefore I " belong to him".
The bottom line is that I believe that Christ had to die for me and I had to be baptized into his name to belong to Jesus and you don't. You think that is unbiblical. Can we agree on that?
The "us" is the 1% and Paul. Repenting Faith? what happened to " faith alone?" You know, I don't see that in this context....what verse was that? Trying to make it fit? So it is not faith alone , it is Faith plus Repentance. Is Repentance found in John 3:16? So much for grace alone/ faith alone/ Jesus alone.
I believe Jesus saved me when I was baptized for this is when I came into contact with his blood and according to Col2 God worked on me when I was baptized and God removed the sins of the flesh when I obeyed him and we can look at Acts 2:38 " Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins". By the way, weren" these believers? Tell me and the other 1%, were they saved in V37? or lost? Await your answer. Question. Did your faith save you?
I follow Jesus for I belong to him not Aleandar Campbell just as you would say you don't follow John Calvin. Well maybe you do. did he die for you? were you baptized in his name?
Wow......I guess Jesus was improper.In case you didn't know it, that what Jesus said. " He that believes and is baptized shall be saved". I guess that is hard to understand like 1Cor. You have to follow John Calvin to get that. So I believe " he that believes and is baptized shall be saved" and you and John Calvin and the other 99% believe Jesus said, " he that believes is saved and can be baptized if he wants".
So, so far the bible says 1} baptism saves 1 Peter 3:21 2]believe plus baptism saved. mark16
and the 99% say 1} baptism does not save 2} believe, saved, baptized if you want.
I'll stay in the 1%.
I ask you again. If I refuse to be baptized do I love Jesus or hate him? Can I go to heaven if I refuse to be baptized?
If you say you love me and keep not my commandments then you are a liar and have no truth in you. Again I ask, If I refuse to be baptized will I go to heaven?
You have a great night and I am still waiting on grace alone/ faith alone/ Jesus alone. Haven't seen the scriptures yet......oh almost forgot, we have to throw repentance in there. so much for faith alone....
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