Originally Posted by Peytonator
This thread has totally been hijacked crazyeyes
Agreed! yep And I should publicly apologize for allowing it to happen and even being participatory in it. [Linked Image]

Originally Posted by Peytonator
Please explain your point further... Are you saying that [water] baptism is the anti-type of the flood waters saving Noah or vice versa?
I have already explained this point, albeit it now being in obscurity but which you can find HERE. What I wrote was the following:

Yes and No! Baptism now saves as the flood waters saved Noah. Peter uses the word antitupon, i.e., anti-type. God assuredly saved Noah using the ark and the water as means to that end. The water saved Noah and his family in this way. But the water didn't save Noah in and of itself. Likewise, Peter's point is that believers are not to be deceived by following the wickedness of the world as did those in the days of Noah, but rather to rest in the resurrection of Christ, of which baptism signifies and seals to all who HAVE BEEN SAVED by faith in Him. Notice that Peter speaks of a "good conscience", i.e., a conscience which is at peace knowing that salvation is in Christ whom God raised from the dead.

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simul iustus et peccator

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