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Good afternoon Pilgrim. Just got home for work. Very busy day. I hope your day has gone well.
Before I look at what you wrote, please understand a person is saved by faith.Now doing what you talked about, looking at the whole word of God, which is the correct thing to do, I ask you, by what type of faith? I believe it is taught from scripture that it is an obedient faith, which I will look at next time. You believe it is a dead faith, which leads me to James2.
The only scripture in the word of God that mentions faith only is James 2:24 and it says " not faith only". Again I will get into that later.
Now let's look at your verses you gave and what I want to do is add the word "only" since it is not there.I am not going to write out the entire verse, but you will get the idea.
And Abraham believed only God and it was reckoned unto him for righteouness. What happened to repentance? So it should say " believe only and Repent". Anyways you just gave up on repentance.
Now let's try this since you want to add words. The demons believe only and it was reckon to them as righteousness....
How about this...in Acts 2:37 the Jews believed only and it was reckon to them as righteousness, but they hadn't repented yet nor been baptized. Later in the verse Peter tells these believers to " save themselves".
How about Cornelius? A devout man who feared God...his prayers ascended to God....was his faith counted as righteousness? Here is a believer. So according to you here is a man who was reckcon as righteous and yet Peter had to tell him words to which to be saved by.
How about Saul? Here is a man who believed, and now we add your word "only". Was his faith only accounted as righteousness? yet three days later he is still in his sins. He was told to " arise and be baptized and wash away your sins>"
Lastly, John 1:12 and again we will add your word "only". But to all who received him, who believed only in his name, he gave POWER TO BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD." So here are believers who are reckon as righteous and God gives them the power to BECOME children of God.
The verses I accept as written without you adding the word "only". I have said from the beginng we are saved by faith. Just not a dead faith like you believe. NONE OF THESE VERSES MENTION REPENTANCE...so now you have lost that also.
Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 " not everyone who says Lord,Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven". God the Father told Jesus what to say while on earth and Jesus said " he that believes and is baptized shall be saved". So those are God's words and yet you have stated that a man can refuse to obey God and not be baptized and still go to heaven. Is that what the 99% of you call faith?
Have a great night and next time I will show you what type of faith saves......
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