Hi Les,<br> <br>No offense was intended, and I had a feeling my message may have been taken that way (ie, that Calvinists believe they are the only one's saved). As you said, I think some Calvinists do feel that way, but that wasn't the point. The point is "many are called, few are chosen."<br> <br>God doesn't "need" our help. That's the common response I hear from Calvinists. God GAVE us the ability to "know, love and serve Him," and that's the point here. He wants us to love Him, not through coersion or some unjust election. If He wasn't leaving to us this ability, we'd have little strings on our arms and legs, or some pre-configured program from which we have no choice to stray from. The fact that we're not puppets and/or robots is evidence that God has indeed given us not only this Free Gift, but also the ability to accept that Gift. That is "true love" and "true devotion" to Him, and it doesn't take one iota away from His Sovereignty - for it was His Gift to us to begin with.<br> <br>So, we don't "earn" salvation - we "accept" it, for the "earning" part has already been done on the Cross.<br> <br>In JMJ,<br><font face="Brush Script MT" class="bigger">Scott<<<</font><br> <br>