Pilgrim writes: I'm not sure how much more specific I could have been? The "point" was that Rome's confusing intermixing of "justification" and "sanctification" often clouds the OFFICIAL teaching of what is exactly meant by "justification". However, the Tridentine articles which were included in the quote by Horton in my last reply showed clearly that "justification" is NOT by faith alone, NOT an imputed righteousness, NOT a forensic declaration, NOT the possession of an alien righteousness, but DOES include works in the matter of justification, etc.<br> <br>Scott replies:[color:purple] I believe I answered that point in my response (a few minutes ago) to Ron. If you need further clarification then let's pursue that thread.<br> <br>In JMJ,<br><font face="Brush Script MT" class="bigger">Scott<<<</font></font color=purple><br>