Laz wrote: Scott - if you say Christ has "done it all"...and salvation is all of grace through faith and NONE of works....and "Christ has redeemed all"....then why do some still go to hell? Is there something these individuals have failed to do? A work of some sort? What have they failed to bring to the table that would justify them? <br><br>[color:purple]Faith is the gift that justifies them, and with that faith comes works - or the faith is dead (gone over this many times now). Man does nothing to merit this gift, for Jesus did it all for him, on the Cross. St. John tells us, "who so ever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) Some still go to Hell because some do not accept this gift and refuse to believe in Him.</font color=purple><br><br>Laz continues: Also, the number which will be saved...and your assertion that Calvinists believe only a FEW will be saved, is a matter of perspective. We believe the Bible when it says that the redeemed will outnumber stars, sand, ....from every nation, tribe and tongue. How is THAT only a 'few'? We believe ONLY the Elect will be saved..that's a clear teaching of Scripture...but at the end of the day...it will NOT be 'few'.<br> <br>[color:purple]Yes, the use of "few" is a matter of perspective. Considering how "few" Calvinists there are in the world, and considering how many non-Christian sects there are compared to Calvinist sects - "few" happens to "fit" in the bigger picture. I'm actually a bit surprized you'd be defensive about this, "for many are called, but few are chosen!"<br><br>In JMJ,<br><font face="Brush Script MT" class="bigger">Scott<<<</font><br></font color=purple>