Originally Posted by MikeL
I disagree based on the very definition of will! The will is a will, because it is something SEPARATE from mind and appetite.

What you've written here is simply doesn't make sense. If mind and emotions determine will, then will doesn't exist!
Typically, you are misconstruing what I and others have written in our replies. I suspect this is willful on your part. It should be obvious from the CONTEXT of what I wrote that I clearly meant that the intellect and emotions determine the will in its exercise. In short, the will does not, indeed cannot act on its own.

Originally Posted by MikeL
Then why say man is composed of this element?
Are you suggesting that man does not have a will?


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simul iustus et peccator

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